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Survey respondents’ comments on Tiny’s proposed new administrative centre

Appearing below are comments submitted by respondents to an online survey conducted by FoTTSA between mid-August and early September 2024. The numbering indicates the order in which the comments were submitted.

1. Demands an investigation!!!!
2. This was not ever mentioned during the election campaign and current Council minus one councillor are pushing this through. On an expenditure of this magnitude, there must be validation of their decision to proceed or not by holding a referendum.
3. Stop the build.
4. They should just add on to and improve the current building as proposed by the previous council. This new build is too extravagant for Tiny.
5. Why does Tiny need such an expensive building when property taxes are already expensive?
6. There is no need for a new admin centre. It’s a foolhardy idea and will become too expensive for taxpayers to bear.
7. Need to follow the money. Who stands to benefit from the build?
8. FoTTSA has handled this issue like a bumbling bunch of amateurs. The PDF petition that was circulated was embarrassingly worded, had no instructions on what to do with it, no clarity on what is its purpose (what exactly has the Tiny Council done that’s against the Act?), and why wasn’t it online? [Editor’s note: the petition referred to here is not a FoTTSA petition.] What is an actual plan? When is the next election, and how do we get a slate of candidates that are respectful of taxpayers and land rights?
9. Why is the existing building not renovated if there is a perceived need for more space?
10. This council is pushing this project through with no regard to the taxpayer. I support a renovation of the old building if needed but not what they planning. Would be nice if they actually listened. There are still many unaware of their plans.
11. This project reeks of corruption and backhandedness. Tiny Council should all be removed.
12. Unnecessary waste of taxpayers’ money.
13. Not at all happy that Tiny is no longer supporting libraries that serve all people but believes it is okay to spend such a large amount of money on something that serves only themselves.
14. Looking forward to the ground-breaking ceremony
15. It’s not needed or wanted. It has to be stopped!
16. Stop it until it makes sense i.e., can be justified!

17. They should defer/cancel project and get their finances in order, fix water system roads and sewage disposal before thinking about the project. Stop hiring more people … get people working remotely if possible!!!
18. Not REQUIRED.
19. They should use the funds for a state-of-the-art recreation centre — pools, courts, fields for many sports, meetings for community, etc. They don’t need a $50 million office for themselves.
20. I have only been to current office twice in 14 seasons. Seems there’s room to build on there.
21. I think there are more pressing things to use the money for rather than a new building. It’s a small township with a small tax base.
22. I do agree with the need for either a renovated or new build office but on the current Balm Beach Rd. site. The proposed build is too massive for such a small workforce and the design architectural rather than functional.
23. The township needs a new building but what is the size needed? They are not clear.
24. Communication has been poorly done by staff and this council as they do not understand that most people do not know how to read staff reports online.
25. With the costs we are facing nationally and locally with climate change, increasing costs in all supply sectors, escalating societal issues, et al, now is not the time to be spending vast sums on unnecessary and un-needed luxury projects.
26. You can double the estimates to get an end-result figure.
27. Everyone understands the present building is no longer sufficient, however renovations of the existing building at a fraction of the price have been demonstrated to be sufficient. This council based their recent campaign on beach access and said nothing about this building. They are an out-of-control rogue administration that have already said they won’t run again (thankfully) so are obviously only interested in leaving an over-the-top type of legacy (or trying to line the pockets of their favourite contractors).
28. I welcome it.
29. I estimate that my taxes will increase by ~$150/year which is a non-issue for me. Also, delaying this project by, say, 10 years would double the price. It has to be done at some time. Also, I don’t like having township staff having to work in substandard working conditions. It’s not fair to them and they work hard on our behalf.
30. Simply stated: We do not want it, we do not need it, we cannot afford it!!! Pre-election promises to work together with residents (collaboratively) have been broken. There is no trust remaining, and without trust in our administration, we have nothing. One councillor fraudulently completed the application form to be a member of council when he does not own property in Tiny. Another councillor has threatened a resident by saying, “I can make you disappear.” The mayor has contributed to slandering the reputations of four residents, and is now being sued for libel. Four of the five members of council should be recalled ASAP. The term is not even 50% over, and already they have demonstrated their incompetence and irresponsibility. The financial plan of the administration is to spend more, tax more. This is completely unsustainable. The proposed debts will be on the backs of taxpayers for 30 years.

31. How can they do this without a referendum and direct public taxpayer support? We the taxpayers are the ones who will have to bear all costs?!
32. We do not need a fancy admin building. Renovate and add an addition to the existing building.
33. Need to deal with septage issue and other infrastructure concerns first. Find a more cost-effective approach to new admin building. Cost is too high for population base.
34. Not needed. Will handcuff fixed income people even further for a building that does nothing to enhance their needs.
35. Council has listened politely to our concerns, but it has not provided requested information. This TTAC project has virtually no support within Tiny. The vast majority of residents oppose it. We do not understand why the current council still wants to proceed in the face of so much opposition.
36. I believe that Council should obtain an estimate for renovating the existing building to meet their needs (including the requirement of staff office sharing and working from home a few days a week). There should be citizen representation (oversite) on the task force that explores that determines the cost of that option. Once they have an estimate, if they still prefer to build the new administrative building, Tiny Township residents should only be on the hook for the amount that it would cost to renovate the existing building. Council would need to come up with ways of generating revenue (not from taxes) to cover cost over the renovation estimate, or abandon the idea of the new building.
37. Thank you to The Tiny Cottager for keeping us readers informed.
38. We don’t need one. Most of them work from home, old office is empty and have more than enough space for 3-4 people working there all time. Waste of money. Focus on public beach, shoreline and water.
39. I think the mayor’s assertion that “the silent majority” supports the project is disingenuous and is instead an indication of the Township’s inability or unwillingness to engage with residents, especially seasonal residents.
40. Although I agree some action needs to be taken, expansion of the existing facility would be more cost effective.
41. I haven’t been convinced of the need for this huge investment and it bothers me that it’s being pushed through without full public discussion.
42. Not sure [of] the correct forum to use to get council to listen. While we all have to be forward thinking and know there are things for future that need to be done for the Township, I think that there are many other ways to get a new building built in ways much less costly. We certainly do not need a costly design, when a square building will be very adequate to serve the needs. Maybe even a prefab commercial design.
43. Unqualified council.
44. Inputs from non-FOTTSA community will be important.

45. It seems the counsellors are pushing it forward even though there is obvious concern from Tiny residents.
46. Given the employment and workplace trends, remote and various hybrids meet the needs of many employees. I think that Tiny should revitalize and renovate the existing building by providing larger meetings spaces and updating technical production of meetings when councillors meet formally.
47. It’s frustrating and disappointing that our elected officials (other than Dave Brunelle) are moving forward with a project that doesn’t reflect the wishes of the electorate.
48. Want more transparency and clarity in print and distributed to all taxpayers. I’m retiring up north next and don’t expect to be paying for this expenditure for the next 30 years through INCREASED taxes.
49. Township refuses to listen to the people they represent.
50. I believe there are less expensive viable options as well as changes to work schedules that would involve staff not required to be in the workplace … like during the pandemic. Also, I think there are rental possibilities in Midland and Penetanguishene that could solve the current overcrowding. Finally, this council is a rookie council and not listening to the vast majority of people. They are being authoritarian.
51. It is not needed and a huge waste of money.
52. There are more economical ways to achieve a better working environment for staff. The problem is this council’s disregard and disrespect for the taxpayers of Tiny.
53. It is a complete waste of money, a new building is not justified or needed.
54. I have been in the existing office. There is loads of room, in fact they rent out the lower level!!!
55. I am Karen Zulynik. I was able to answers #1 and #2 only because I am so involved. Thanks for doing this survey. Just epic.
56. I believe there is a need for some improvements at the existing administrative centre but that the needs could be achieved through a much more efficient way. Also, I believe that the township should be pooling some of the financial requirements from existing taxes to avoid financing the necessary requirements for the lesser improvements before commencing a project.
57. The proposed structure is way too elaborate for what this township needs.
58. My question is what the residents have been told by members of the anti-build group! Given that Tiny has a blended tax rate, some of the statements that have been made are out of line, also stopping people on the street is out of line!
59. Absurd.
60. I would support a refurbishment if necessary but there has not been a clear picture of a need to do this.

61. Remove Tatham from existing building to provide necessary space if space required. Is additional space required with more employees working from home?
62. This is simply a vanity project.
63. To my recollection, there were two other main issues front and centre at election time. This proposal wasn’t evident at all.
64. Do something about the septage situation first.
65. I still have not seen an answer to the simple question of “Why a new building is needed?”
66. It was conceived in a pre-Covid era and the need is no longer there given the remote infrastructure now in place.
67. I agree we need to do something but I question whether Tiny decision-makers are responding to consultants’ dream build versus being financially prudent and practical.
68. Council needs to LISTEN to the residents. The silent majority are cottagers that don’t know what is going on.
69. Very overdue, FoTTSA supported a new admin building in 2015, what changed? Goesman lots again?
70. Why can’t the current facility be expanded either upwards or on the existing site? What exactly are the space needs and have those perceived needs been assessed by professional space planners who can separate out wishes vs actual needs? Why can’t the private company housed in the lower level be asked to leave if space is truly needed?
71. We need more alternatives.
72. Commandant Evans is doing whatever he wants without the consent of the majority. He has to be getting a kickback…
73. Terrible communication process — perhaps because it is a bad idea.
74. Open government is the best government. It’s not about legacy or ego. It’s about the Tiny citizens.
75. The mayor’s consistent, stubborn, unsupported, “arrogant” drive and attitude/comments to this project is beyond shocking and is totally reprehensible!! This project was put aside by the last Council and should have required a clear mandate from taxpayers in both the election and the resurrection of the TTAC committee. A referendum is CLEARLY required on this single, most expensive, unfunded, over the top, unwanted, unneeded, unauthorized “showpiece” monstrosity!
76. Can’t understand why Council isn’t listening re: new building.
77. I am not the one who neglected (a word used by the mayor?) the upkeep of the present building so why am I responsible to pay for a new building that is unbelievably expensive? Those who failed to do their job are responsible to fix the present building and to think they have the nerve to have others pay for their mistakes, neglect. Taxpayers pay too much tax now. We already live on a tight budget. For council to even think of proposing the new centre is a slap to our faces never mind actually going ahead with it.

78. I dislike the behaviour and comments of some of the anti-admin protestors. They also have an incorrect understanding of democracy. I want the employees of Tiny Township to have a proper place to work. If you value them as people and want to attract and retain good employees you need to treat them properly. If you want to attract quality people to run for office you can’t call them names and constantly put them down. I’m frustrated with the complaining.
79. While I understand there are concrete reasons for improving the workspace, this expense is outrageous.
80. I do not feel that we should be spending this amount of money.
81. I am sure they could find cost saving measures or sell the land and rent or buy a bigger place.
82. It was not on any mayoral candidate’s top 10 list of priorities in the runup to last election. There are other things needing money and attention. With remote and hybrid work the norm, there is enough room for staff in the existing building. And if they still are renting space in the existing building to others, they need to stop doing that.
83. It’s horrifying how secretive this council has been. I have stood and listened to our mayor straight out lie, Councillor Walma has repeatedly lied, and Councillor Helowka has given me the most insane reasons they have for not renovating and adding to the present building. I am seriously considering leaving Tiny before this council manages to destroy what was once a paradise. They’re bent on ruining our beach enjoyment as well.
84. There are far more necessary issues to deal with than an administration building.
85. Tell me how our population in Tiny can afford this expenditure.
86. I will go onto the website and read more about the project, but I can’t believe our [council] wants to put us in such huge debt for such a very long time with such a small voting and tax base. Very disturbing.
87. The new proposed centre is very attractive for no one to see. I do not believe Tiny needs or can afford [it]; a review of a more cost effective version should be discussed. Tiny has many issues in finance and is in dire need of various upgrades which are immediate issues. As homeowners we are apprehensive for the future and fear the township will go bankrupt or close to.
88. There are other projects that should be a priority — roads and waste disposal are just two of them!
89. Hypocrisy. Council is well paid to represent constituents, however have failed in recent responses to requests to build beyond existing parameters. Elected officials should be ousted for even suggesting a multi-million dollar build for a workplace.
90. I’m sure we need to solve our septic problems rather than pumping on to farmers’ fields.
91. I attended one of the meetings held about the proposal and we were definitely told, “The Council has approved this and there is no going back.” So much for listening to your ratepayers!
92. How would a new centre benefit the taxpayer?

93. If they don’t stop the project and rethink possibilities, the province needs to intervene to stop it. With the population size of the township and the potential for county-wide amalgamation, such an expenditure is ludicrous.
94. Get it done now!!!
95. Do not understand why they need such a large, luxurious building. They don’t have that much staff to need such a large space. Also, residents can order dog licence, parking passes and fire permits online. When I have been in the office I do not see too many people working in there. There is a need for more by-law officers in the road, not staff to sit in an office. I am totally against this new building. I am sure they can find a better spot and do with a much smaller building.
96. Put tax money into things that matter, e.g., roads and water sanitation.
97. Our elected officials have yet to explain why they will not repurpose the current main brick and mortar municipal office with an addition to accommodate staffing needs. Unity has done earlier builds using buildings designed, e.g., as a post office in Peterborough, Ontario for a housing project.
98. It seems like a rash vanity project. There are many ways to improve our admin centre. This is not the way.
99. I believe FOTTSA has to look beyond the Council it does not support and look at staff working conditions and the benefits of housing township staff in one building. The staff works hard to maintain our Township. The cost for any large project is difficult to project and although these numbers appear high in retrospect sitting on this until it is too late costs more. Retrofitting is not an option — it can be a nightmare.
100. Not necessary, too many other needs for our community.
101. Too expensive and too grand — we need alternatives.
102. Council does not seem to care what taxpayers have to say about this issue. They ignore everything and carry on. It’s very frustrating that an elected group is acting this way and these decisions will have far-reaching implications once the current council is gone, which will be after the next election.
103. The lack of transparency and willingness to hear the public’s complaints is astounding.
104. There are no sewers in Tiny Township. Priority should be given to a long-term project to build a sewage disposal and treatment capacity in the Township. Over and above any other major initiatives.
105. Our tax dollars are desperately needed elsewhere. What about septic waste disposal? This is a much bigger issue. The size of the rebuild is also way out of whack with the population of Tiny. This project also seems to have come out of the blue — definitely more work and consultation is needed.
106. Tiny, Ontario has very little commercial or industrial tax base. Therefore, costs must be kept to a minimum since the residential taxpayer will bear the brunt of expensive and unnecessary capital projects.

107. Maybe we really do need a new building rather than spending money on the old one.
108. The speed with which this project is being pushed through does not make sense, especially when previous councils did not think it sufficiently worthwhile to build reserves. This is a small township, and $25M + financing is a huge sum of money. Morally, at a minimum, taxpayers need to be better apprised, and potentially consulted also. Council seems to have ulterior motives. There’s very little by way of character or moral compass with this council.
109. This new build is an unnecessary burden on us as it will have a huge increase on our taxes. Council did not consult us, they had already made the decision! They will all be voted out in the next election.
110. This new mayor and Tiny Council do not have a Clue what they are doing, and it shows.
111. Keep taxes low in this recessionary period, this would increase taxes.
112. Too expensive.
113. Round shapes — construction always costs more. Geothermal heat — very expensive
     If new building, it’s grossly oversized. Two stories cheaper than one. Best bet is to build more office at current location.
114. We don’t need it, we don’t want it. Do the job that we pay you to do. Tiny is falling apart.
115. It is too large, too costly and will put a HUGE tax burden on the entire community.
116. I believe the town and taxpayers’ money would be better spent expanding the current footprint vs. a new build and site. The future is moving toward online, this is very backwards thinking of the town not to mention their lack of respect for things such as the ice age grass they should be proud of and wanting to protect and foster.
117. Renovate/build on existing site!
118. It is unnecessary.
119. I wish this was discussed during the last council election. It would have impacted my vote!
120. If people are surprised by it all of a sudden, then there wasn’t full disclosure from the start.
121. Not required.
122. Renovate what you have!! New administration building is not necessary or wanted by residents!
123. I believe with everyone is struggling to make ends meet, the added burden of a tax increase is not called for at this time. Any time I have been into the building, there is limited staff on hand, the option to work from home advantage, plus online, why do we need to increase the size of the building and move it from it present location. An option to save money is to add onto the existing building as this location provides room to grow.
124. It is not how I want to spend my tax dollars.

125. It makes absolutely no sense for such a small community, largely made up of seasonal residents, to build such an extravagant administrative centre. This seems like a project based on the egos of a few local politicians and not the majority — and a tax money grab, which puts an unnecessary burden on the average person. We’re suffering enough under inflation. Please stop this madness and listen to reality.
126. If this turned into a community access truly engaged usage around the grounds, a meeting place for all kinds of recreation programs and events, I might understand the mindset behind this project, but the size of the building is a ridiculous extravagance.
127. Why is it costing so much? Ridiculous amounts.
128. Very disappointed that Council did not have a mandate for this project and yet they are choosing to burden taxpayers with this unnecessary, oversized new building versus working with constituents to consider alternatives (i.e., a renovation or smaller new building at the current townhall location, hybrid work solutions which require far less office space) There are many infrastructure needs far greater than this project that are already going to cost over $70M, including a septage disposal system. We’ve read that the mayor says he has a silent majority, but he hasn’t shown any figures to support this. What’s the rush by Council? Paybacks are rumoured with increased taxes for decades to come. Council needs to listen and prove the rumours are wrong and do what’s right and halt this project and let the people decide at the next election. This is not the legacy any elected official should choose to leave in their community. We’ve never seen such a blatant disregard for the public’s input and lack of respect for constituents hard earned dollars. Council may be acting within their legal rights, but they are acting foolishly and with reckless abandon by not listening to the public who elected them to represent them, not to ignore them. Thank you for your efforts relaying concerns to Council. Hopefully they will choose to halt this project and let the people decide in the next election. Tiny needs to address urgent infrastructure requirements, not a new municipal administration centre.
129. At some point facilities need to be upgraded however the taxpayer should have input.
130. We need to fix the roads and sewage problem FIRST!
131. As a taxpayer, I don’t feel I can afford this new building. I’d like to see a long-term solution for sewage disposal, and a new building that costs far less money. My grandchildren should not have to pay the long-term debt incurred by the plans for a new facility.
132. Too expensive and will be detrimental to the community and taxpayers.
133. Keep the taxes low.
134. Long time coming.
135. Perhaps my perspective is influenced by the fact that I’m still working and not retired, but I find it difficult to understand the “I’ll never use it” and “I don’t want it” mentality. While I don’t plan on using the admin building, I also don’t work for the township. However, if I were confined to an office that was merely an old portable, I would certainly be seeking alternative employment. This issue might not be solely about the residents of Tiny, but rather about retaining employees and providing them with a suitable work environment. We are not a third-world community, and these individuals are working on our behalf. Furthermore, I often hear the argument that we don’t need more space because many people are working from home. However, this trend is shifting. Many organizations are now requiring employees to return to the office for 3-4 days per week. I can attest to this as I am still part of the workforce. Lastly, conducting research is part of my job, and I must say that this questionnaire appears to be quite biased. It seems to lean heavily towards the “no build” agenda. This is just my observation.

136. There currently is an administrative building on Balm Beach Rd. which could be remodelled with a new design to accommodate the staff and correct any issues. The councillor Steffen Walma has admitted to impending infrastructure concerns which need to be resolved, and the impending sewage treatment issue which looms as septic waste is sprayed on farmers’ fields, the impending garbage situation, the straining affordable housing situation, issues for low-income families and children in need, water treatment issues, opioid crisis situation, local bus transportation, medical walk-in clinic desperately needed. All the above and more take precedent to build a new administrative building as one exists and can be renovated with a great design with a local architect and builder to promote Tiny’s economy.
137. Too large and too expensive building for the size of Tiny Township.
138. Completely unacceptable process all done in secrecy. No consideration for environment nor cost for each taxpayer. No financial planning regarding the many new issues in Tiny which will be expensive — septage, road repair, water.
139. It should be functional and designed for its intended purpose. Fancy architectural drawings/plan for style is a total waste (I understand it is to be designed with costly and unnecessary flowing lines which are nice to look at for visitors and cows in nearby pastures but totally useless for function).
140. The mayor and 3 councillors should not be able to push this through without a democratic process. They claim the silent majority wants it but many of those people without lawn signs don’t know what is transpiring.
141. There is land space available to increase the need at its current location. Do not want to be taxed on new location, based on the sceptical costs!! Along with the findings regarding the sensitive plants. It is over the top of our Tiny’s needs. We are NOT a metropolis that can finance this.
142. ELECTION TIME, especially since this council does not live full-time here and nor do they listen to the majority of home and cottage owners. Their shut-door meetings, silencing the protesting crowds. Other than the committee involved I have not seen or heard any positive feedback from the Tiny community to build. Can anyone show us that list?? Show me the list of the Tiny population that wants this new building!! My feeling is that our Tiny council members are only building this great puzzle palace is because of the land developers payoffs!!!!! Seen this before with provincial politicians with reference to the “Greenbelt” push!!! They are not working for the community only their own political kick-off gains.
143. Expand existing facility.

144. Financially irresponsible and totally not required. Tiny Council needs to be accountable to taxpayers and this proposed build is the lowest priority for infrastructure needs. There needs to be a referendum on this and plans put on a hard hold until such time.
145. I think it’s absurd that people in Tiny Township, especially along the shoreline, are fighting this development. They have done the exact same thing, on a smaller scale but still the same outcome. Built homes with much more space than anyone needs, destroyed habitats by taking down so many trees. They are hypocrites for putting up signs on their properties in my opinion. Their only concern is paying more taxes, yet they have created properties that are inherently costing more to maintain for themselves and the community. I think the Township can do whatever they want. Most of the properties I have seen with signs have clearly done whatever they want without any regard to environment or cost.
146. Communications/input is needed and what was lacking, thus the emotions around the issue.
147. Any referendum should show the alternative proposals for a new admin build or upgrades to the existing building.
148. The estimate is based on nothing factual and will surely increase. The website does not provide easily accessible information.
149. It needs more consultation, and probably should be scaled back in scope.
150. I believe this survey is designed to promote a predesigned outcome. Can you please supply detail about where the simplified financial information you are supplying came from? I would like to be able to trust the information from FoTTSA but without detail or sources, how can I?
151. We know there will be a budget overrun. What are the added benefits other than a central location? I see no benefit to me. I am opposed.
152. Stop the build! It’s insane!
153. Less is more. 33,000 sq.ft. is far too large. Abandon the “community hub” idea and look at building onto the existing site.
154. This is absurd. Many people work from home. The cost is atrocious. So many people protested and David Evans completely ignored the public. Before elected he said he wanted to listen. Lie.
155. No need for it. work on existing. I live in a bigger township and their building is older and smaller. Taxes are too much now for what we get.
156. Total waste of taxpayers’ money! They still work from home. Direct funds towards roads.
157. I believe a new building is needed soon. The longer we wait, the more costs will rise. The building could be scaled down to save costs, I think.
158. If needed expand the existing convenient location and look after real township business such as the best disposal from septic tanks.
159. I absolutely believe the current space does NOT meet the needs it should. I don’t believe this means the proposed building is the only or best option. I think the subject has become polarized and people have lost sight of the fact that something IS needed and that we can push for an alternative rather than nothing at all.

160. With the exception of Brunelle the councillors really don’t care what we think.
161. This is not needed!
162. Working from home and outsourcing could reduce office space requirements; 32,000 square feet seems excessive.
163. There is no need to build a new administration building.
164. Tiny does not have the commercial tax base to support a building such as they are proposing. The cost will all fall to homeowners’ taxes over many years to come. It is a ridiculous idea and whoever thought to push it forward should be held accountable for such a costly venture. If there was a proper commercial tax base that Tiny could depend upon, then I might consider such a proposal but not at the present cost. Why can’t the present site be added onto? I think this present proposal is one that is overriding most taxpayers of Tiny and it will place them in very financially compromising positions for years to come.
165. There are many other spending priorities before this one. What were they thinking? They are destined to be a one-term council.
166. For the size of this township, this is irresponsible of this council to spend this amount of money, renovating existing property and building is more responsible. Exposing the taxpayers of this community to this type of financial burden will be felt for generations.
167. I have spoken to a councillor about my opposition to this plan for a new office building.
     I got nowhere. They are not listening to any one of us. They think that we are all wealthy.
168. It’s madness.
169. I have met with Dave and Steffen separately. I am still waiting for the follow-up information I requested. I am very disappointed with their lack of interest in my genuine concern.
170. Stop the Build.
171. Elaborate build is not necessary, renovate the existing building.
172. Not needed!!! They should renovate and expand existing admin building. This new build is NOT environmentally friendly!!!
173. Tiny Township is fine just the way it is.
174. We do not need a new admin building. If need be, they could add some partition to the building with all the tax load that we have already, this is definitely not the right time to increase taxes!
175. One will be needed in the future, and at that point it will be substantially more expensive. I believe that Tiny is growing, and this needs to be reflected in infrastructure (e.g., buildings, roads, etc.).

176. I’m a 40-year plus commercial construction manager (retired). The costs outlined in the “D” estimate falls extremely short of real costs to build as per “sketches” by the design firm. If the need is for a new building, a utility style building should be considered. Needs and wants are two different things. I do believe a future amalgamation is in the cards within Simcoe County which would make this planned facility moot.
177. The taxes in Tiny are very high and it seems that the administration is hiring far too many people, purchasing too many vehicles, increasing their red-tape, and basically building their empire and serving themselves. They need to cut back and reduce taxes, and not build and expand their bureaucracy. They can do less with less.
178. I am not opposed to a new building. Whatever it costs now it will be threefold 20 years from now when the old building is in worse condition. Currently it is not eco-friendly nor is it completely accessible. It’s shortsighted to think future generations should get saddled with the cost. The Ontario Science Centre is a good example of what can happen when successive governments neglect it.
179. What steps have been taken to improve the current facility to accommodate what is required for them to work well within? I don’t remember that being communicated to the public. I would be in favour of providing more space on the current site.
180. Council’s lack of transparency, accountability and even poorer grip on the financial impacts of a potential $50 million expenditure when there is little or no major industry, new business or population growth predicted to help offset the carrying costs. Not to mention the debt that will be added if there’s a 1% BoC rate increase on $50 million = $500,000 additional debt. The taxpayers do NOT want a massive tax increase every year. There have to be other options, re-design / add on to existing structures, renos, room additions, portable buildings, etc. Our children often attend school for years in portable units … what’s wrong with adding portable work rooms?
181. Total waste of tax dollars. Can’t wait to vote this council out. Updated facilities is understandable but not the excessive size and cost. Of all the meetings that have attended, not one councillor knows how many employees they have.
182. Too bad that we lost the Midland corner with all the assessment it brought in!
183. At this time Tiny can’t afford to build this palace. We need to slow down and look at all options.
184. Tiny does not have the commercial tax base to support building a new town hall. The cost for this will affect generations of homeowners in Tiny for years to come. The cost is utterly beyond anything Tiny, which is basically a two small town, several villages and rural population tax base. The council is totally ignoring its constituents in regard to this project of theirs. Again, Tiny does not have the commercial tax base to support such a venture.
185. Too big, too expensive, not highest priority.
186. Capital expenditures shouldn’t be taxing on taxpayers. Do it in phases over time.
187. Stop the build. We need a choice.
188. The new administration centre is unnecessary and more than we need.

189. I noticed most of the signs up opposing this are by the millionaires who live on the beach which makes me suspicious (of the beach millionaires) about what their agenda is. They only have their own agenda in mind. First, I was aware there was a web page, but haven’t consulted it primarily b/c what was verbalized was not trustworthy, so why bother with a website for same?

I’m fairly informed of the Township’s politics, needs and challenges, but this push for the proposed building

was not on anyone’s campaign platform and in light of the economic issues, I’m taken aback all discussions, debates and listening are all shut down. The Council’s communication is not only inept, but bordering on disrespectful arrogance.

One must question why? Perhaps there is a perceived opposition based on us vs. them — waterfront vs. back lot residents, encouraged by certain activist groups that in actuality has no basis.

There is a drumbeat for the need for a new administrative building, but that’s a misnomer since it’s a wish list for so much more – community centre, entertainment hall, day care centre, walking trails, and Walma continues to encourage what more can be included in the guise of substantiating the size, expense and purpose.

Question – is it about the staff needing a better environment, in light of hybrid work is the norm going forward?

Then there are comments why this Council is so adamant for the new build and inflexible when more than likely they will not enjoy or experience the new. But the staff will and senior staff is influencing the novice Council. And staff is not elected, but with too much influence.

Referendum is the only way to settle the matter.

190. Although the need for more space is correct, the proposed build is not as multi-functional as it should be and the cost for it is prohibitive. More input is required and it seems Councillor Brunelle is the only one listening to the constituents.
191. Why is a new build necessary? How about renovations to the existing one
192. As some employees are still working remotely I do not believe the council is being fiscally responsible to its taxpayers.
193. Don’t do it.
194. It is a waste of taxpayers’ money.
195. Complete waste of money.
196. A total waste of time and a total disgrace and embarrassment; 100% disregard for the voices of this township. Council, CAO Lamb work for the residents of Tiny NOT!! Themselves and their buddies. This Council along with CAO Lamb should all be dismissed. There needs to be a new election where the PEOPLE of Tiny are heard.
197. Need to hold off on construction till costs of living comes down. Too expensive.

198. The way the council announced it was very poor. It is like they knew it would not fly and decided to sneak it by the taxpayers.
199. Build an addition to the current facility like Tay Township did years ago. This won’t be disturbing the land the monstrosity is planned to be built on and won’t be building another unneeded facility. The council is out of control. We seriously cannot afford to have a large tax increase as they have been ever increasing. We’re not all from the city, we DO NOT stand for this. Money does not grow on trees. Build something respectable.
200. COST DOES NOT CLEARLY REFLECT THE NEEDS OF TINY RESIDENTS.
201. We need an honest 5-year projection on all costs and their expected effects on taxes.
202. I believe the total costs of the project are out of line with the ability of the population to support it.
203. Can they adapt the same or build on the same sight?
204. The municipal administrative building does not make any sense and has no justification. Tiny has many other areas that need investment including roads, septage removal, better police protection and of course, the upgrade of all of Tiny’s assets per the Asset Management Plan.
205. Why not improve the building and add on to it, rather than an outrageously expensive build that taxpayers will have to pay for? It doesn’t make sense in this economy. People are struggling already.
206. It’s about a decade behind schedule! Get it done! Stop wasting time with meetings after meetings! It’s been explained numerous times! There will always be Karens, some need to let it go or go get assessed themselves! Wow!
207. It is completely irresponsible for such a small community and limited tax base. Just renovate or add on to the existing structure if more space is required. Somebody’s ego is too big.
208. It is disgraceful that we don’t have a new administration centre in place now. Shame on previous councils for not actioning earlier
209. I’m not against a new building. I understand the need for something new. What I don’t understand is why it can’t just be a square brick building. Why all the fancy crap? Looks more to me like council ego trip. Haven’t talked to anyone that thinks it’s a good idea.
210. I believe our elected council members are being paid big bucks by the 2030 agenda to force people to sell their homes, and if Steffen Walma doesn’t buy them some other WEF members will … as in, “You will own nothing, and you WILL be happy.”
211. All things considered, the admin building is basically a bunch of portables. If you’ve ever been there, you know how outdated the place is. Tons of small towns similar in size to Tiny around Georgian Bay have great admin buildings. I think it’s a step in the right direction!
212. Looking forward to the new building.
213. Thank you for trying to get the council to listen.

214. This survey is designed to be one-sided. It is badly designed and you need to have proper input on how to create this. The questions inherently skew answers towards the neutral or negative response. You also need to provide transparency on who’s Google account is responsible for this survey. I expect to be able to see statistics on how many people responded, how many were unique, and how many were verified users. I also expect these comments to be discussed.
215. I hope an economical alternative is found. I’m concerned that other expenses should be given priority, such as a septage treatment facility.
216. We are a small community and see nothing wrong with the existing facility. Lots of land for expansion.
217. We need transparency. They tend to do things behind her back and that’s not democracy. It’s obvious that they have no respect for it or the people. We need to clear the house and put in new people who respect democracy and work for the people.
218. We absolutely need to have a residents’ vote on this! 5 out of all the residents here is NOT a majority decision.
219. Tiny did an excellent presentation during the PIC. Unfortunately, too few people watched it. Therefore, a lot of people do not know much about the plans and just jump on the bandwagon and make lots of wrong assumptions, when hearing the phrase “tax increase.” It is less costly to build the right administration building now, as postponing or putting a band-aid on the current building will increase the cost significantly down the road.
220. I know a new administrative centre is needed.
221. Looking for transparency and to hear that the community is really heard and not just dismissed.
222. Unfortunately, I don’t believe that anything said will make a difference in what they do.
223. Governments rarely listen to the people unless there is an election. I wish I thought differently but I have fought battles before and spent lotta of time and energy and now that I am old … no fight left.
224. Would it make more sense to add an addition to the existing office space?
225. I will read Tiny’s web page. Thanks for this info.
226. The size and ambition of the proposed building is well beyond the current and projected needs of staff. It will cost the taxpayers of Tiny a huge tax increase and still leave the most pressing issue unresolved. Where is Tiny going to put the poop? Deal with the septic disposal!
227. Very undemocratic process. Committee members are all involved and maybe personally interested.
228. How necessary is this expenditure to contribute to Tiny and growth??
229. We don’t need it. That money should be spent on the infrastructure deficit or not at all.

230. Tiny’s population is not enough to support a build if the magnitude. Add on to existing building if needed. In a time where costs are skyrocketing it is not the time to add more financial burden to taxpayers. Why council is able to push this through is beyond me.
231. I don’t feel that Tiny Council, especially the mayor cares about the taxpayers. The council is planning to put this building through regardless of the taxpayer’s concerns. The council refuses to look at different ideas which may be cheaper or more efficient. They “claim” they looked at other alternatives but taxpayers have not seen them. An administrative building should be for work and not include any gyms or fun areas. The council is totally out of touch and the mayor is a dictator.
232. It’s not the time to spend all this money.
233. It’s unnecessary, especially when adding on to existing building would likely cost less, and reduce the environmental footprint.
234. We have just come out of one of our lifetime worst episodes, grocery store and cost of living has skyrocketed. Why place this additional burden and stress on Tiny families? Repair minimally at this time and spare this added hardship on Tiny families.
235. In addition to a failed STR regime, which doesn’t cover its own costs, Tiny is now overextending taxpayers’ money to build a lavish admin centre. Council is not listening to the vast majority that don’t want this build. Disappointing governance.
236. I truly believe that Council should expand on the existing building and repurpose the building and space as needed/wanted rather than starting from the ground up. The proposed layout is ostentatious and showy rather than functional. We are in a needs vs wants economy; spending like this is like an unsupervised kid in a candy store.
237. How much funding do they have for this project & how much is out of taxpayers’ pocket? Can we see the budget for the newbuild?
238. Stop the build.
239. It’s totally unreasonable and unnecessary at this time. The projected cost is ridiculous and what is the point of a new admin centre when there is so much need for services in our communities. The priority should be on SERVICE DELIVERY, not on an Administrative Centre. The Tiny taxpayer will be made to pay for a new building and offices for staff; how will this structure that we cannot afford enhance or improve any services? IT WON’T SO DON’T DO IT. I’m the taxpayer and I don’t want to pay any more taxes than I already am!
240. Don’t build it.
241. We need to protect NATURE. Not destroy it.
242. I have entered the town office for services only to be turned away and told to do everything online. With online services available, there is no need for a new building. The communities within Tiny offer walking spaces, coffee shops, trails, etc. No town office needs to act as a social hub because truthfully, no one wants to hang out with Council.
243. Costs not to build due to ever increasing repairs need to be considered. Also, the impact on efficiency.

244. The monthly cost for the next 30 years that was quoted to us according to our property assessment does not take into consideration the return on investment of that sum if it was to be invested at the same rate as Tiny’s proposed financing. In fact, the figure is approximately twice as much. Conversely, if the monthly sum was borrowed at prime for the next 30 years, the cost at the end of term would be triple the original amount. A simple addition to our property taxes does not reflect the true cost.
245. Kill the new MAC. Upgrade, renovate and expand the existing town hall for a fraction of the cost.
246. The current council is ignoring most of the principles of good governance in blindly, recklessly, and vigorously pursuing this project.
247. Not only would I like to see a referendum I’d like to see us work together as a community and co- create the spaces and places that we need to get work done. Citizens need to be invited into the process and needs to be innovative and inclusive Township.
248. “Nothing for us without us!” P.S. I would be happy to lead these sessions.
249. Council has not been transparent and has not given Tiny residents the proper open forums to discuss, question, other options, etc. as the only forums were to allow input about the building were minimal and the 3 presentations which did not accept residents’ questions they did not like. They keep talking about the “silent majority” wanting the building with no evidence. I do not think the percentage of increase in taxes is relevant, though Walma continues to insist it is minimal, it is about prioritizing the spending so that the whatever increases we are burdened with are the most effective and the building is at the bottom if the list considering other more important infrastructure requirements. It is unfortunate that this Council has made it clear in no uncertain terms, this building is happening regardless, period!
250. We do not want it. Addition on existing building is better choice for the taxpayers.
251. Ask the Mayor and all the Councillors to listen to their constituents.
252. Government always spends more than necessary at taxpayers’ expense, property taxes currently are already equivalent to a small mortgage payment, and in this day and age of tech I don’t feel that a larger building is necessary when majority of business is conducted online as proven through COVID. Also, I feel that residents of Tiny at most southerly and northerly ends are paying for services not provided to them (e.g., municipal water, lights, etc.) and are taxed the same! To add additional financial burden to taxpayers for an exorbitant building when there are other less expensive options would be irresponsible and the debt that would be incurred would create this tax burden for years to come.
253. The vocal majority do not support the build. The majority want a referendum on the biggest historical expenditure that was not mentioned in the last election. These councillors undermine democracy and should be ashamed of their actions. Robert Lamb’s https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/bylaw-officers-threaten-to-remove-5-year-old-girl-s-lemonade-stand- 1.3457624.
254. We don’t need it.

255. $25 million for an office building is excessive and unnecessary. If their current building is old and needs replacement. I am for that but a $25 million office building is not reasonable and an irresponsible use of taxpayers’ money.
256. This building is completely not needed. You have all proved that you can work remotely but then again during COVID most of you didn’t even work so you do not need or deserve this building. So many people are suffering financially because of the COVID enforcements that were placed on people for years, and making so many businesses go under while government businesses got to thrive, including the LCBO. What a horrible waste of money especially in a time when people can barely afford to make ends meet. Use that money and cut back our taxes. That is a huge amount of money and it’s not needed! This building should be decided upon by the people because we’re the one paying for it so do a referendum and let us decide you should not be deciding what you do with our money!!!!
257. Stop this unnecessary, extravagant showcase
258. Can’t understand how it’s a priority given infrastructure issues
259. Not necessary.
260. If the township truly requires more space then why not lease existing commercial real estate saving the cost of building a new building and helping the economy at the same time?
261. There should be a feasibility study performed based on the number of taxpayers in the township. It should be determined the number of permanent residents and cottage properties. Also, most of the staff works from a home base so in fact why is such a large venue required when in fact the present one is not staffed with in person representatives?
262. Why not just upgrade and renovate the existing building at much lesser cost, to the taxpayers as well as the environment?
263. Was there any competition, or did Tiny just ask one architect and then accept whatever they came up with?
264. This whole process seems to be under a hidden agenda. This was never discussed during the election, but simply sprung on us at the last minute. The way that CAO lamb and Tiny council members have treated the public is nothing but deplorable and despicable.
265. Are there any intended savings to come out of this new build from decanting of their old sites and why is this not being advertised? With work from home aspects has this been taken into consideration with the design being proposed?
266. Not enough consideration was given to the possibility of just improving/expanding existing facilities.
267. I believe there needs to be a better understanding of the costs to not build the new admin centre for a proper comparison. Actual costs are one factor. Meeting carbon goals, forward operational costs and costs to bring current locations to new standards would all factor in as well as lifespan of current vs. new build.
268. Council has to explain with reasons the change in the fall of 2023 from using renovated existing buildings and thus wasting the funds to do the renovation and proposing a gold standard building which costs far exceed the ability of Tiny’s taxpayers to pay without substantial hardship. Council has to explain why we must wait until the next election to stop the process with wasted expenditures in the interim. Council has to explain why ratepayers were not included as members of the committee leading up to the decision.

269. We need to update the current facility by removing the portables and building an addition. That is all. We do not need a brand new building at a new location and a library.
270. Tiny residents cannot afford it. It’s 2024 and employees want to work from home as it helps balance work and personal demands on their time. Stop the build or reduce its footprint to a more realistic size for a small community.
271. Show me a project that has come on budget in Ontario? These costs are only a fraction of what the building will actually cost. The mayor and his deputy need to really consider how they are spending our money!!!
272. After witnessing outrageous and outright rude member conduct by Council I cannot trust the current Council to act in the best interests of Tiny residents.
273. Instead of building new there is lots of space around the existing building to build more office space up or around. Building new is a poor use of resources as making an addition would reduce costs considerably.
274. Staff need a renovated or scaled down new building but not a palace. This community cannot afford the cost of the proposed building. We have almost zero industry and properties will soon be reassessed with higher taxes to pay. Tiny needs a facility to dispose of our sewage and the infrastructure needs much attention. This building is going to be the reason why people leave Tiny. Let the people speak … do a referendum.
275. I am firmly against a new admin centre at this time.
276. The current administration building is a dump and falling apart. It’s a piecemeal building that is an embarrassment.
277. The cost — $47 million — is outrageous! We do not need a new administrative building. The resulting tax increases will force me to move out of the area. The mayor and his cronies should be kicked out of office. They are no listening to their constituents.
278. Don’t want it … don’t need a new building for the little work they do for us!!!
279. I believe costs will change because they always do in construction. I do believe Council is honest with current projections.
280. Not necessary to address growth or poor service. Neither are real. This is a waste of taxpayers’ money.
281. The mayor and deputy mayor have no clue how to run a household let alone a township. Complete mismanagement and no care for the future. Our township with 20 thousand taxpayers doesn’t need this expense.

282. The new location is in an isolated area. The proposed new building is a Taj Mahal and totally inappropriate for the residents and environment.
283. I am concerned that basic community services, such as a library, social services, public health services, perhaps a recreation and community events centre, are needed for Tiny, especially as Midland seems to be stepping away from these, and a centre would support these. Is there a means to look at what essential services are and ensure that the build would include these? I am concerned that some of the noise is an unwillingness to step up and support those in need in the community.
284. If current facilities are insufficient for Tiny Council than a more cost-effective solution should be pursued. Just a thought, why can’t Tiny accumulate the cost of the new administration building before building it?
285. Question 3 is biased, those sound about right should have given me a mitigating answer.
286. Too fancy for its purpose – poor location for disabled and those with limited access to transportation.
287. It is not needed.
288. It should not advance any further.
289. I think cottagers are spending an awful lot of time and effort to rob local residents of amenities. If you don’t want to pay double taxes on your recreational home, then sell it.
290. I would like to see them explore options. This is just one. I would like to see costs to rehabilitate/renovate/add on to the existing building. I would like to see an option that costs half. What would that look like? How can we incorporate hybrid work and high technology into the plan? Show us 3 options and then get citizen feedback.
291. It’s a total failure of the democratic process. A few people on a power trip thrusting a huge expense on a small tax base without a proper vote on the project.
292. Stop the build.
293. Why new? What is wrong with the existing Administrative Centre, are Tiny’s administrative duties so great that they can’t be executed in it? NOT!! If these costs were coming out of your pocket, would you be chasing this new build so hard? What benefit will this be for the public that has to pay for it???
294. What a waste of our money. Maybe plan for the next 10 years and put a new building in it so it will have less impact on our taxes.
295. Community consultation is non-existent. What they do have is just smoke and mirrors to make it appear that they are consulting.
296. Council does not appear to have evaluated alternatives nor justified the scope other than to say existing facilities are old and outdated.
297. The new administrative centre is not needed. An addition to the already existing 130 Balm Beach Road is all that is required. There is a VERY SMALL tax base in Tiny, and honestly, this small tax base cannot support the advertised new TTAC. Please make it stop before we all have to sell and move … or is that what this council wants?

298. Great potential for community building.
299. It must be stopped until a more reasonable plan is developed.
300. It is an absolutely unnecessary project and expenditure. An extremely poor use of taxpayers’ dollars.
301. The present building is crowded. There are portables for office space and the employees have to go to the main building for washrooms. Go there in the wintertime and see the six-foot icicles hanging off the roof.
302. This project seems like a colossal waste to f taxpayers’ money. It’s completely unnecessary and almost everyone I speak to does not support this initiative.
303. It is not truly required at this time.
304. STOP THIS ABUSE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY!!!!
305. I believe this project is completely crazy and unnecessary for our township.
306. Rather see more affordable alternatives to administrative centre and greater focus on core services, such as municipal water, sewage disposal and greater enforcement of interim bylaw limiting building near high water mark
307. The council is going ahead no matter what we want. We were told by the mayor it’s a done deal 😔 absolutely disgusting.
308. Stop the waste.
309. Any time I have been in the office there are at least 2 clerks available, but I have never seen more than 2 people looking for service.
310. There is a definite lack of transparency on this project.
311. Why build a new building? I was told by a town official that last time I was there to pick up my voting card that the mayor is never in the office, and uses the County office. The building is always empty. Council is going to bankrupt the town.
312. FoTTSA fully supported this project every step of way … now you don’t?? What is this really about??
313. The building they have is sufficient. The rented space should be freed up so Tiny staff could use. Renovate the existing building or put an addition to it.
314. I think it is totally unnecessary. I agree that the present building is in need of some upgrades and repairs but what they are proposing is ridiculous.
315. Too expensive.

316. Solve the other problems first that affect the entire community. Like the wastewater/septic issue with Tiny being cut off for not paying their fair share for using other municipalities’ services; this includes the library and arenas.
317. Given the population of Tiny, how can Tiny justify such costs for a new administrative centre? In my experience, the administration does not reply to emails or phone calls regarding the concerns of citizens. It has few employees and even fewer who are willing to take the concerns of citizens and taxpayers seriously – this includes long-standing and ongoing disputes between new cottage owners with beachfront property and everyone else (especially those of us who pay taxes and are forced to share 60 feet of beach with all other owners in the community). A referendum is necessary for democracy to function. Let the taxpayers decided if this is how they would like their money to be spent. I believe in government systems and in governance more broadly, but the city has done little to inform its members (taxpayers) of its plans, its rationale for a new administrative centre with such costs, and have given us no choice but to demand a referendum.
318. Stop the Build.
319. Just don’t do it.
320. In this environment of remote work, let’s just upgrade the existing building and create remote jobs. The proposal is irresponsible.
321. Refurbish and add on to the one we’ve got.
322. Using existing land and buildings and adding on makes the most sense in my opinion.
323. Everyone I’ve spoken to, say the same thing … We don’t need another building. We don’t need another tax hike.
324. We don’t need it.
325. We’re a tiny township (population-wise) and need to manage our expenses.
326. With so much happening through the internet, why a new facility? What value does it bring to the community? Infrastructure more important.
327. We do not need an administrative building complex of that size and cost.
328. Not required, we can repair what we have.
329. I agree we need a new admin centre but not this large and costly.
330. Needs more transparency.
331. Any capital project (other than roads and essential utilities) that exceeds a percentage of the annual budget should be automatically subject to a binding referendum of the people. I suggest that this should be mandated by the Province because municipalities are governed by the Province.
332. Why do we need this? Way too much money for this “tiny” area. Worried about tax increases.

333. This survey is skewed by the options presented. Council has gone from $25 million to over $47 million. That’s irresponsible.
334. I think the centre should be redesigned to align better with the financial situation now and in the future of Tiny. I understand updating is necessary but not to such an excessive extent. The amount needed will put such a strain on budgets and there are so many necessary items more pressing in our township. From experience, there are ALWAYS hidden costs!
335. The proposed build is outrageous for a township with a such a small tax base and no population growth on the horizon. The fact that the mayor and Council continue to push this project through is disrespectful to the citizens of Tiny and completely arrogant.
336. The elected council does not appear to listen to its residents with regard to the new build. It is time for a new mayor.
337. Council & elected representatives are ignoring their taxpayers. I have supported the protests.
338. Council needs to stop and listen to the residents of Tiny. No one wants this.
339. I do not feel so much money spent on this proposal. I feel a combined administration centre could be included with a community centre that all taxpayers benefit from. Such as an indoor gym for sports maybe an indoor pool so seniors can exercise and families can have the chance to take swimming lessons, etc. In Tiny we must travel to Wasaga or Midland, etc. Spend our money there instead of in Tiny.
340. They need to take more time to get approval. It’s too expensive, especially the financing costs.
341. We need a recall law to avoid situations like this.
342. Transparency of all financials spent thus far plus the proposed financials. Pros and cons for pragmatic build on same property versus huge building on new property. Be honest.
343. Most irresponsible councillors I have ever experienced in Tiny or anywhere else for that matter.
344. They need to be more forthcoming and agree to revise the planned project.
345. Stop the Build.
346. No referendum is necessary as the current council was voted in with this issue being well known.
347. Please save costs and renovate the present building (including mould).
348. Working in a portable is not acceptable!
349. Silly vanity project.
350. I don’t feel it is necessary. I don’t think they have looked at alternatives.
351. I don’t think that we need such an expensive and elaborate building.

352. The cost is exorbitant given the requirements. Why is such an elaborate and expensive facility required? Seems incredibly wasteful in terms of taxpayers’ money. Proceeds could go towards improving infrastructures rather than a beautiful building no one cares about or needs
353. It would save us taxpayers a lot of money if you expanded the existing administrative centre instead of spending $40 million, or more, on a new one.
354. They don’t need it. They all still work from home!
355. Not sure where… but… I have seen comments posted somewhere that the public wants input on the design, layout, etc. of the new building. To me … that is ridiculous request. The public does not work in the building … 99.9% of the public has no idea of the internal workings of the administration … and they want input? All that will do is significantly delay the design … and massively slow down the whole process. Makes NO sense.
356. The time it is done, you can pretty well double the original estimate.
357. This proposed build is completely unnecessary and unaffordable for a small community. The current property should be renovated, with additions. This build will bankrupt the community.
358. A new building is needed and each year it is delayed the price will rise.
359. Is it really necessary?
360. Not the time to be doing this!!
361. Other more appropriate options are available and should be reconsidered.
362. Don’t think it’s necessary.
363. More communication and lead up time for homeowners regarding such a massive project. A few months notice is not enough time to make an educated decision. This type of project takes years and many meetings!!!!!!!!
364. No Hybrid Work Model.
365. This project seems like it is being pushed through with no input or regard for the Tiny taxpayers. Its planned building site, size and cost are not appropriate for the community. I seriously think there should be a referendum.
366. As taxpayers we need full and timely exposure to the costs and benefits of spending this amount of money.
367. Stop wasting our money.
368. Someone needs to find their motive for this project.
369. I believe a new build is required, however I don’t believe it is necessary for the building to be as elaborate as the proposal. Township employees work in hybrid so once the build is completed will employees be back in the office 100%?
370. It seems like the council is strong arming us into this project.
371. STOP THE BUILD.

372. We’ve done fine without an administration centre. This is just public employees stealing money and power from the taxpayer. In this time of rampant inflation we should not be borrowing anything, never mind borrowing to build something that we don’t need.
373. Unreasonable for the size of the Township.
374. The township is growing and I believe that a new facility is necessary.
375. We cannot afford this build … period.
376. It feels as though this build is being pushed through and that Council is completely ignoring the voice of the taxpayers (i.e., the ones who will be footing the bill).
377. I do not trust them at all. Somebody is making $$$ and there are kickbacks
378. Council did not run their last election campaign based on moving forward with a new admin centre. The new centre was not part of their election platform. They have no support / agreement from the electorate for this initiative. The people of Tiny have been blindsided by council on this issue. Not how a democracy operates.
379. We need a thorough review of the infrastructure needs of the township (which apparently has been completed), and real communication and discussion of these pending expenses in light of the tax increases (10%+\- each for past 2 years) which have been imposed. The communication and community involvement has been lacking in the extreme, in my view. The recently elected council made little or no mention of this initiative in the election run-up and have acted since as if they have a mandate in favour, which I feel they do not.
380. Makes no sense that residents are OK to massively develop their own properties but protest this one.
381. Many other very important infrastructure priorities for taxpayer dollars — water, septage, roads, etc. Patriarchal old white men “telling” taxpayers what they will do, despite strong pushback, is very tone deaf. What needs assessment was conducted that said we need a wedding venue in Tiny? Why are we building an enormous building for 58 staff, when a consultant report said hybrid work is recommended? Current building is inadequate but a much more modest solution would be prudent. The cost overruns will be massive, especially since the architect has never worked on a municipal building before. I have absolutely zero confidence that this project will be on time or on budget, the politicians will be gone and taxpayers will be holding the bag. We need to stop this runaway train and the idiots driving it!
382. It is not fiscally responsible and is too elaborate!
383. The proposals seem to be based on having all staff at work all the time with no estimate of possible downsizing gains to be made by using connective technologies and hot desking arrangements. It also overestimates the potential use by the public of the proposed building given that we already have a number of perfectly adequate community centres.
384. This project is a waste of our money.
385. There are far more pressing issues than to spend money on an administrative building, i.e., septic treatment plan.

386. Repair existing facility for less than half. Once all costs are in for new facility, I’ll guarantee it will be at least 50% more like all publicly funded projects due to change orders and poor initial design plans that aren’t very detailed.
387. Building without a plan is ludicrous. Also, very interesting that Tatham Engineering get office space! They should be paying a premium rent.
388. I think that the project has likely been carefully thought-out by Tiny staff and Council. I think that probably the current township offices are “tired” and that spending big bucks there to bring the building up to today’s requirements and required future energy efficiencies may well be more than the cost of a new building. The township-projected tax increase on our property does not seem that out of line.
389. I think that if Tiny were to proceed with a new administrative building It could be done in a more cost-effective way.
390. Not necessary for the current or future size of the township according to projected community growth
391. Please spend tax dollars more respectfully. Within XX years, how many more services will be online? We don’t need a new office when almost everything is done online with more and more to come.
392. Now is not the time for unnecessary spending, The overtaxed working class are having a hard enough time making ends meet. Tax dollars should be spent on her necessities not niceties.
393. Why is it needed? What are growth projections for Tiny Township? What will this new facility provide that the current facility does not have? Not aware of any problems with current facility.
394. Bring in AI to run government contracts and reduce the number of government employees as they will be redundant under this system.
395. Low taxes. These people weren’t voted in to do this.
396. As a young family we moved to tiny just 5 years ago and we will move again if this building goes through, as we will not allow our next generation to acquire this debt. The township can renovate or add an addition to the existing building, find space to rent, or do hybrid work force. A township of approximately 15,000 people with very little services does not need a $50 million building!!!!
397. Need to update the existing building.
398. Council needs to listen to the people who voted them in.
399. Surely it’s possible to buy an appropriate space for the administrative centre. I think the council is underestimating costs. Supply issues, prices increases, are just 2 issues not accounted for. Tiny can’t afford this project while we still have roads that need repair and septic disposal issues.
400. Renovate the existing building as per the consultants’ recommendation.
401. I have yet to see any statement of benefits to Tiny from this project.

402. Thank you for taking action against this wasteful and unnecessary project.
403. This is far too costly and extravagant. There are much less expensive options to house staff together in a renovated and expanded current building and eliminate portables. Displays fiscal irresponsibility and lack of respect for taxpayers by this council.
404. Listen to the people.
405. it is not necessary!
406. What are the costs to furnish and maintain the new building? Is that included in the $25.6 million?
407. Not necessary, just another useless expense.
408. There is far too much opposition for a responsible elected Council to proceed without holding a referendum. Proceeding would be an assault on democracy.
409. We don’t need a fiefdom for Tiny’s employees! Renovate the existing offices and store records elsewhere! Also “work from home” can be used.
410. Almost all government projects exceed the cost estimates by a large percentage.
411. There are other more affordable options but Council refused to look at them. I don’t understand why they are pushing forward with this. It wasn’t on their election platforms. Two surveys sent out by the Township had many other items given higher priority. We are already in a huge deficit requiring higher taxes. Council’s poor handling of library and septage have had serious repercussions.
412. This is completely unnecessary and a waste of taxpayer money.
413. Money is better spent on other needs.
414. In addition to the financial irresponsibility of making such a huge investment for a small township, a new building is NOT justified. The reasons that the council cited for building a new building are very weak and most can be addressed by modifying existing property (if they are required). We all live and work in spaces that are not perfect. The Township doesn’t need perfection either.
415. Council should look again at expanding the existing building.
416. What will happen with the existing equity of the existing land/facility? What is the return on investment?
417. This build is absolutely not necessary for this type of retirement and seasonal community. Most people are working towards remote work.
418. I do think that we need an updated admin building. The one we have now is not adequate, from what I hear and observe. I would like to see a comparative study done by a third party to see the cost differences between several options (example: renovation on current building) as well as a new build. We need options and information, not a new building rammed through.
419. Massive waste of money. Must not happen.

420. I would imagine that existing commercial space could be leased, providing an adequate “new home” for the admin centre, without absorbing the capital expense involved with a new building. I would suggest Council investigate possibilities and present the options to the voters.
421. I do not understand why, if there is truly a need for such a new facility, the present property could not be utilized for the appropriate renovations!!
422. The cost of the new administrative building is totally unacceptable. This whole project is totally unnecessary and will raise our taxes through the roof. What was the bidding process? Was there even a bidding process or were contracts just given out, with kickbacks?! There is NO need for a new administration building!
423. IT would seem to me that paying $15 million to finance this building is a complete waste of taxpayers’ money. I certainly wouldn’t support a scaled project that would allow smart growth and the space that the township requires to do its operations. However, I feel that having a waste treatment centre is far more crucial to the township so operations than something that is $30 million + for a township that is not projecting any full-time population growth in the next five years. further, I feel that my township taxes are already very high, especially as I do not have town water, sewage or use any educational infrastructure. I would be shocked if they went ahead with this project and it didn’t impact taxpayers in a negative way almost immediately.
424. This project seems to be primarily sponsored by a small group of people on the council and the township bureaucracy that seem content with their own decision-making and feel no obligation to take account of public opinion. The fact that most of the council members and the mayor say they will not be running again says they have no concern about saddling the township with a white elephant for which they will deny or not bear any responsibility or accountability. To have a project like this straddling two almost completely different councils is bound to create issues around budgets, design and project completion should it go ahead. Furthermore, the same group seems to be convinced that this project should take priority over most other infrastructure related projects while offering scant evidence to support this conclusion. This all seems to reflect a failure of governance.
425. After being in the office several times this summer I strongly believe there is no need for this new building and incremental costs to taxpayers.
426. They have very little commercial tax bases so the shortfall will be on the seasonal taxpayers.
427. Given that there is such strong opposition to this, it is completely perplexing as to why this is going ahead. These actions do not represent the majority of the people’s wishes who primarily live in Tiny.
428. I would like to know why a renovation of the existing town hall is not a better, more economical option.
429. I attended 2 info sessions online to see the plans for the building and that sought public input on the public spaces. The administration is taking a very undemocratic approach and shutting out any public comments that do not relate specifically to use of the public spaces. I am very disappointed in this mayor and Council.
430. It would be helpful to have some analysis of what this cost would represent to the “average” property owner in Tiny in terms of their annual property taxes. I have been through a similar process in Muskoka and ultimately the area because too expensive for average people to afford from a property tax perspective, especially given the very limited services received in exchange for property tax costs. I am also a seasonal cottager so I do not consume many local resources.

431. I believe it’s important for Tiny to have a new administrative centre. But it seems the cost of borrowing ratios are off.
432. We need a new administration centre but not a that cost.
433. There has been much talk regarding boundary changes; it seems short sighted to proceed. I do believe staff is working in not the best conditions and that there does need to be a less expensive alternative.
434. How much would a referendum cost? The end costs of building something always costs more than the estimate.
435. Stop the build. No need for this project. A real waste of taxpayers’ money.
436. I have already written a couple of letters to the council. I don’t think this type of expenditure is useful at a time where so many other items are more crucial.
437. The proposed centre makes no sense given the current and projected population for the area. I am appalled at how the council has rejected all input from the residents and taxpayers of Tiny. They are elected officials, yet are not listening to the people who elected them.
438. Surely there is more urgent need for the Township’s money.
439. I think there may be some shady dealings particularly regarding the bidding process.
440. Time to impeach Tiny Council!!!
441. Misguided plan as amalgamation of 4 townships likely in the not too distant future.
442. What are concerns of the existing admin building?
443. This is an upgrade from the present building to a ridiculously extravagant building. Why were the taxpayers not given any say or involvement in the planning? An upgrade in the building may be necessary but this is irresponsible planning on the part of the government. What happened to being responsible for serving the people and not yourselves? As taxpayers we don’t need a showpiece for a new building. This is not an area that has endless wealth to draw on. The burden on the taxpayers is ridiculous especially for those who have a vacation property that is used for 3 months of the year. What happened to being reasonable with your expectations? Financing this venture with be a real burden on the taxpayers for years to come.
444. Waste of money and resources. The building will sit vacant with nobody coming in to work.
445. Why can’t the council and employees work from home like everyone else in the world does these days? This new administration centre is totally unnecessary.
446. I understand that some parts of the building requirements are based on provincial mandates/rules. I would like to know more about that.
447. Huge waste of money and this is not the economic climate to be starting such a build. The current government in place that is pushing this forward does not have any future of coming back and they know it, so they don’t care about what the taxpayers have to say. This is a very irresponsible government.

448. I believe the costs are simply too high for a township of the size and budget of Tiny. There must be more appropriate solutions available.
449. This project is totally unnecessary.
450. Stop as planned and hold a referendum as to how to move on.
451. Is Tiny Township willing to retain a very experienced retired individual with over 40 years experience in the Toronto architectural and construction industry who can provide a “peer review” of your construction drawings and specifications for this project? Peer review prior to going to tender will catch a very large percentage of items missing from the drawings and specifications. Every one of those items missing is referred to as an extra, money the client can ill afford to pay after the contract has been awarded. On a project of your magnitude you will not need millions of dollars of extras, and nor do we as taxpayers. For references I have provided a similar service to the Town of Penetanguishene for construction of their new town hall addition and alterations and their new firehall on Fuller Ave.
452. Not sure how this project became a priority when other matters — including sewage treatment — are not being addressed.
453. The public voted for most of the current councillors to “fix” the beach issues, mainly de-privatize them, not to build a new administration building.
454. I believe the current building is very crowded and inadequate and will continue to be so as the population, housing and businesses expand in this area.
455. I feel the new building will be much easier for people with disabilities. We’re all getting older and I already have a disability due to health issues and could not attend the meeting personally. It’ll be more environmentally friendly than the previous building and do a lot for growth in the region. I do believe something needs to be done about the current building. I find it frustrating that it’s not totally accessible.
456. STOP MAKING COTTAGERS PAY FOR A BUILDING THAT’S NOT NEEDED.
457. What is the policy for admin staff working remote vs in office? Will that change if a new building is made?
458. It is offensive to spend this type of money on a project given the size, scale and economics of the Township of Tiny. This should go to a vote of the community.
459. My objection to a lack of explanation on how this option has been selected and the others rejected. Council’ arrogance is despicable.
460. I believe a more fiscally responsible renovation to the existing facility should be adopted.
461. Take all councillors to the court.
462. It is unrealistic to think that this can proceed in the current economic climate.

463. The curved building brings with it inherent cost increases over a rectilinear design. The current design does not represent this municipalities character.
464. Our taxes are already out of control and it is affecting the livelihood of the local community as well.
465. This new centre is unnecessary and extremely financially irresponsible. The cost is outrageous. The new building should be scrapped. Taxpayers cannot afford this. The prior should be addressing the sewage issues which requires immediate attention at this time and requires a financial commitment. It is time for Tiny council to listen to the residents needs ahead of their own.
466. It seems like a much too expensive solution for our township.
467. If necessary the Province should put a stop to this egregious waste of taxpayer dollars.
468. Not needed. In private business many lower cost options on expanding current office would be chosen.
469. Waste of a lot of money.
470. Why not renovate the existing space?
471. I can’t put it in print.
472. Waste of our money.
473. I’d like to know if Tiny has explicitly disclosed all costs and timelines to residents.
474. $48 million is a lot of money to spend. We need more information on why we need a new building. I thought employees are working part of their week at home now. This would mean that maybe we do not need as much space as we currently have.
475. They have paid for and done studies. Not one has suggested that a new $40 to $50 million expense was necessary.
476. I would support a repair to existing building but nothing involving this price to taxpayers. It is totally unnecessary.
477. I’ve said it before. The property on which the current building sits, has more than enough room to add an addition for more bloody offices. Good grief! How much more room do these clods need. If you want to spend money, help those who do not have an affordable place to live. I can agree with that! Glenn Smith
478. Completely unnecessary. Renovate the existing space.
479. Part of my concern is that I have personally observed Tiny in action and find them to be doing unnecessary things and not doing them well. This to me suggests a priority in improving their efficacy, not building a new admin building to house more but less effective people. My main interaction with Tiny is the building department.

480. Why do they not add on to their existing building? I am sure there would be a cost saving there in the land and less money to expand.
481. Alternatives will also be expensive. Poor working conditions lead to unhappy staff, higher staff turnover and poorer service levels. Tiny is growing and will need more staff and services in the future. Investing in the future now is good. Inflation will only mean delays add to costs.
482. They need to be responsible with the taxpayers’ money.
483. Their principal responsibility is to keep up the Tiny Township infrastructure.
484. As a taxpayer, my perspective is all of this planning and scheduling has gone ahead without taxpayers being appraised – visibility has been beyond poor. The optics and requirements as why this is necessary for this taxpayer has never been provided.
485. What is the impact to the overall budget with this spend? What percentage of the budget is this dollar amount?
486. I feel the money would be better spent on building a new sewage treatment facility in Tiny Township.
487. Re: building cost. It’s very rare that actual costs exactly equal estimated costs, regardless of the size of the new structure. Financing costs are less reliable because they, too, are subject to economic conditions and also lender markets. Is a new building warranted? Do expected permanent population growth estimates warrant a new admin centre of proposed size? Is there support and/or financial assistance from higher levels of government? Or is a renovation a viable option (e.g., a reno to increase size and/or to refreshen office space)? A referendum is a drastic, extreme measure and can come back to haunt you. It also has antagonistic overtones. It can affect future Council actions. Here, need to really understand all the wins? losses? For example, a taxpayer win could ostracize other taxpayers from community participation.
488. Current issues in the township should be addressed first and a renovation of the current centre should be considered before money is spent on a new building which is not needed.
489. We did send an email to Council to cancel the project and we received a short response that it will only cost $19 more per month for 20 years!!!!
490. Expand the existing building.
491. It seems their plans to proceed came without much public/taxpayer notification for input.
492. The build is totally unnecessary. Additions and renovations would suffice and much less costly. Many staff are working from home. Even the design is ridiculous for a rural township. Many low- income ratepayers and cottage owners will be not be able afford a huge increase in their taxes. Stop the Admin Build, please!
493. We don’t need the proposed new administrative centre. There must be another solution to this problem. Perhaps having people work some days at home and other days at the office.

494. It is excessive and unnecessary.
495. Ok for reno or a much more pragmatic building.
496. I understand that a new building may be necessary; however, the scope of this proposal is out of all proportion to the needs of a relatively small community. Furthermore, the council has done a terrible job of communicating why such a grand structure is necessary.
497. Totally unnecessary. A renovation for a quarter of the cost would do the job.
498. We live in a township, not a city. The building plans are way too extravagant for our area and pocketbooks.
499. I’m frustrated with the lack of transparency by the town.
500. Seems excessive.
501. I would expect more transparency regarding all options reviewed to get a better understanding of their decision to proceed with the significant capital expenditure. I would have thought that there should be sufficient justification to support all expenditures/projects that impact the taxpayer this significantly.
502. I feel that the process regarding g the administrative centre has not been transparent.
503. The current building does need to be replaced. The Township has grown in population and I understand why there is more staff to handle building, zoning, by-law, taxes, and infrastructure. An engineer was added a few years ago to assist with keeping Tiny structurally safe. The volume of building permits has increased dramatically over the past 10 years. There are more rules and regulations to be enforced, such as environmental, by-law and zoning standards which also requires more staff.
504. They probably do need a new building but not that big and not with all those amenities and likely not at a new site. Can’t they just rebuild on their current site?
505. Council should prioritize infrastructure needs, water, sewage, etc.
506. No increase in taxes.
507. By agreeing to hold a referendum on the project (which would inevitably be preceded by a wide- open debate in public), Council would be empowering, in truly democratic fashion, an enlightened Tiny popular opinion to decide this issue of vital importance to the community.
508. I think a referendum is a reasonable solution in trying to form a consensus on this issue. I don’t understand why Council doesn’t take its constituents seriously when they are so concerned about this huge expense. It should be explained, and “silent majority” is not an answer. As well, the link on the site where the mayor said, in the CTV interview, there are “reasons listed” supporting the build, doesn’t say much.
509. I see the new admin building web page but it’s not clear how long it’s been available. I had checked a while back and there wasn’t the info that’s on it now.
510. It is an absurd and unnecessary large expenditure that needs to be stopped.

511. Isn’t there other infrastructure that can be used, instead of spending tons of taxpayer dollars on a new building? Aren’t people mostly working from home these days? Is this a fancy new building to sit mostly empty?
512. It’s too big a cost for too small a taxpayer base and we don’t need it. If it was a community centre at the same time that might make a bit more sense. No resident that I’ve talked to knew about this project until it became a done deal – that’s not right
513. Referendum would be a strong way to show cohesive opinion one way or another on Tiny’s proposed new administrative centre.
514. Transparency is non-existent. No show of good responsible practices around this whole so-called project.
515. I agree they need to improve the facilities but think they have seriously overreached. Public space is not necessary. The proposed facilities and costs are excessive for a community of this size. They have also not taken into consideration increased operating costs when estimating future cost to taxpayers.
516. We are so disappointed with this useless council! They are not protecting the future of our water and now they are wasting money they don’t have. They cannot even afford to install municipal water on our street!! Who are these weak, irresponsible people? Maybe the media needs to know what is happening in this part of Ontario. The youth in our family have suggested someone contact environmental world activist Greta Thunberg about our water issue and draw attention to council that way. Petitions only work with rational people. It is time social media shames them on various platforms.
517. Simply stop this unnecessary project.
518. This is not a popular project. Council should listen to the people who elected them.
519. Priority does not align with taxpayer needs.
520. This project needs to be delayed until after the next election. The people in power right now are making decisions on their own that will negatively affect everyone in Tiny.
521. Tiny needs to listen to residents’ concerns instead of “bulldozing” through the process. Only one councillor seems to hear what the public reaction has been. He has not been supported by council. We need a council that does not put their own agenda in the forefront.
522. Council is self-serving.
523. Try working in a portable in February!
524. The plan should have been outlined as part of the election process. This is a political/financial issue affecting us all as citizens of Tiny. The township has shown stunningly poor communication and planning processes primarily because a clear rationale for the project was not conveyed at the outset. It appears the wishes of a few trumped the actual need for, and implications for taxpayers for massive growth. Options for development, from minor to elaborate should have been presented for consideration. The sense of being railroaded is unsettling in this supposed democracy.

525. Council is out of control and not representing the taxpayers’ wishes.
526. There is a saying: we deserve the leaders we get. It may be true for now but we must find a way to elect representatives that are qualified to manage the largest public purse in the township. Fire fighters, HR admin, sales managers, and retired OPP officers simply do not have the qualifications, which is why they are constantly flustered, complaining about the workload, and unable to engage, inspire, and build alignment and consensus. Listen to the people’s concerns! They voted you into office and they will vote you out if you proceed with this build.
527. Not needed. Renovate!
528. Protect the assets we have. It will benefit the community. STOP THE BUILD! No much of a plan since they don’t seem to understand that there is no need for a new centre.
529. Again, wish this was included in the election platforms and I expect my vote would have been different.
530. They need to scrap it. Nobody wants it.
531. They need to rethink the plan. It’s not cost effective for those of us who live in Tiny. And why on earth would cottagers support the plan? It’s my money they’re planning to spend and I can’t afford it. It would have been nice if saving was started sooner but now is the next best time.
532. I don’t believe anything they say or do. They don’t know what they are doing. Who is really behind this? This is not a democratic council.
533. I do not support at all.
534. The Township has been pro development for residents as is evident from the abundant growth of properties, in both the size of the structure and its impact on the environment. Anyone protesting this is only concerned about their financial situation now that it is no longer about their own property.
535. Stop the build!
536. I think this council is doing something that is needed, but may be doing it incorrectly. Something does have to happen. I’m more concerned that past councils have known this has had to happen for decades but no capital reserve fund was established earlier. $28M is an unfortunate but realistic price for necessary improvements. Financing the whole thing is the product of years of mismanagement. I believe council is going about this the wrong way. But the biggest mistakes here were made by previous councils in forcing this situation. Not this one.
537. This current council has demonstrated their lack of respect to the ratepayers. Their silent majority claims are ridiculous and all but one should resign.
538. Everything is falling on deaf ears.
539. Hopefully we’ll have an election before this all begins construction. Stop the admin center build!! We should make it clear that if they push this ahead without a referendum they are misappropriating power. They are there to serve us and not the other way around.
540. I am concerned that as the project continues as proposed, the overruns will be higher than what anyone expects. Also, they can spin the numbers all they want to try and swing the vote … but until all of Council’s “assumptions” are clearly explained and attached with each set of numbers/proposals. etc., AND other options vs. a new build … there is still far too many grey areas and not enough black and white to make an informed decision. My fear is that they’ll have too many ways, loopholes allowing them to side-step the cold hard facts. Consider this example: Council’s acting like a TV commercial selling a product e.g., “eyedrops and how good they are for you: … then toward the end of the ad there are multiple disclaimers that preclude anyone from being able to take action against the company if problems arise. This brings us back to issue of Tiny Council … we must fight them all the way because … if they succeed in adding $50 million more debt…we won’t be able to fight back the never-ending onslaught of tax increases. Not to mention other money/tax grabs they think of implementing to cover their growing debts.

541. They should be fired. What a disgrace. To totally dismiss the people of Tiny is nothing short of illegal. That is not what democracy is that is what a dictatorship is.
542. Residents should have been made aware of issues annually. NOT HIT OVER THE HEAD all at once! No one on council has experience in finance nor major project management. Costs are already excessive and will certainly run over. Council is pretending Tiny is something that it is not.
543. I’m at a loss as to why our council is pursuing this project. I do believe the township offices could benefit from addition/renovation, a new build of this magnitude is unrealistic. There are so many infrastructure items that seem to be pushed onto the back burner. When it comes down to it there will be no monies left after paying for the new municipal building to deal with the infrastructure backlogs. My only hope is that this is a one-term council.
544. This council does not have the capability to make financial decisions for the Township. They do not listen to the residents and continue to double down on this ridiculous use of tax revenues. The question that needs to be asked is why are they still moving forward with this project against the residents’ wishes? I will leave the obvious answer to you.
545. Can’t wait to see it finished! I’m very sure it will be a fantastic benefit to Tiny Township. The people of tiny don’t seem to realize how much their Township gives back to them!!!!! Sooo many celebrations … Sooo many freebies … sooo many festivals. So much. I say keep up the good work and forget about the “downers“!!!
546. I support the councillors. Again with the biased questions. “Based on Council’s handling so far” is a negative implication. You literally have a three-page letter from the ombudsman of Ontario stating that Council has gone above and beyond their required duties to ensure transparency.
547. We need to have an early election with this decision as part of it! Not ONE of these idiot councillors ran on having a new building!
548. Let’s bring it to a vote If a new building is justified, open a “building fund” line in the annual budget. Use any annual budget surplus as well as annual budgeted contributions to the building fund. When the fund reaches an amount to make the project economically feasible, then go ahead and build.
549. It’s a joke. Why do they need large office spaces for individual employees over and above private industry? Employees get more holidays than private industry and are not available after hours when numerous issues occur. The roads where I live are not paved and are gravel, which makes it difficult to walk or ride your bike and they tell me it’s not in the budget every year I speak with them. They will spend millions on something they want but ignore taxpayer needs.

550. It doesn’t make any sense.
551. They need to bring in a non-biased third party for an assessment.
552. Tiny needs to be more transparent, and these points need to be made clearly and directly to all residents. This was not an election issue. If they want the build make it an issue for the next election. We were hoodwinked.
553. Like I said, this exorbitant spending on a new admin centre when there are so many infrastructure needs upcoming will affect taxpayers for years to come (20++).
554. These councillors, except for one, are out of control, uneducated, self-serving, drunk on power. Their decision is not a decision that the people that they are supposed to represent want and the people have made their concerns very clear. The councillors, except for one, refuse to listen and have stated so during the public meeting.
555. The concerns of Tiny residents have been completely ignored by most of the council. Environmental issues have been explained and ignored. Tiny residents can’t afford increased taxes for a building we don’t need. The Unity representative stated the building was “a showcase.” Tiny doesn’t need a SHOWCASE. The projected increase in population for the next 30 years is minimal according to professionals who assess population increase, therefore this massive building is totally unnecessary.
556. When is the next election to vote in a new council? Perhaps a referendum question on allowing residents to recall a politician while in office with 51% of constituents signing a recall.
557. If the township is already facing a backlog deficit of $49.6 million, the cost of the new proposed centre is definitely NOT feasible.
558. We want a referendum! They seem incapable of prioritizing the things that matter, are deliberately secretive and evasive, and should be removed from office.
559. This is nothing but a shell company acting on behalf of CAO, Lamb, and council members.
560. There is no mention of facility maintenance costs over the life of this new build. What other added costs will Council spring on us once shovels are in the ground? I fear there is a huge lack of transparency by Council and they will put the expenses on the backs of those living in Tiny. Why are they not seeking any provincial or federal funding?
561. Council has to go back to square one, put the decision on hold and explain why renovations to existing buildings and recommendations for their use were not followed through in the fall of 2023 and explain why the funds used for that purpose should be wasted by this new proposal costing millions more.
562. Council’s smug treatment of residents’ concerns has been so disappointing, and the way their supporters are behaving in the public forums is embarrassing and transparently obvious that *some* councillors are riling them up behind closed doors to do their bidding and trying to confuse people on the issue. They also seem to not respect women… yet having more respectful dialogue on other pages.

563. Hold a referendum There should be a referendum to decide whether the project should go ahead. Surely there must be a safety valve when a council goes way outside the mandate they were given at voting time. This project was publicized after the vote. This is plain bad.
564. Stop the build and boot out the mayor and all but one of the councillors!!!! I don’t understand how people get elected and then think it’s okay to spend money like a drunken sailor! How about some common sense!
565. This administration is recklessly bringing the community to the edge of bankruptcy. It has no true leadership and it is mismanaging our money and our future. They need to be investigated now and eliminated in the next election.
566. They need a new building, but it needs to be practical, not a Taj Mahal.
567. Nobody wants to build this project, other than the folks on council. The taxpayers have spoken! Better use of funding that’s available and stop gouging those that use it as a cottage and not a permanent residence!
568. Support and applaud council for interim building by-law but think handling of administrative centre has been terrible.
569. Stop the build. Why do they need a space no one will use? They all still work from home! They don’t appear to care about the effect on constituents.
570. Stop the build. They aren’t listening to their people those who elected them.
571. Stop the Build.
572. With rising costs for food, electrics, gas, clothing, shoes, replacing major appliances, vehicles, etc. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO GO INTO MAJOR DEBT FOR A BUILDING WE DO NOT NEED OR WANT!!! PLEASE STOP THE BUILD … MOST OF US IN TINY ARE SENIORS, WE CANNOT AFFORD HIGHER TAXES!!! This council is autocratic and not democratic. Too little too late.
573. Be transparent. Provide documentation and supportive financial analysis.
574. The new building is necessary and delaying the project will add significantly to the cost, so I’m in favour of doing it now.
575. Inadequate information.
576. I feel this council doesn’t care what residents are saying. They do what they want with no concern for the people who live here.
577. As is the case with any construction project, unforeseen delays and issues will definitely drive costs up. Given the scope of the project, this could cost taxpayers several million more than was initially proposed. Like I said before, put this money towards infrastructure, not this building which is nothing more than a vanity project for whoever thought it up and is pushing it along.
578. The majority of this council has abandoned sound fiscal management.
579. HAVE HOMEOWNERS MORE INVOLVED.

580. It needs another review before committing to this project by an independent group of qualified people to assess the feasibility and cost/benefit of such an expensive undertaking. Stop the project.
581. SCRAP IT…
582. Inflation is an excuse. Make do with what you have. Some enriching yourselves and making yourselves feel powerful by stealing from the taxpayer. Very concerned about the quality of town water.
583. Cannot wait until the next election.
584. There is no accountability for taxpayers’ money. This is an outrage.
585. Yes – I feel as though Council doesn’t care about their constituents AT ALL. We are not being listened to. This is NOT what we want and Council is saying — in effect — WE DON’T CARE WHAT YOU DO OR DON’T WANT. Something smells fishy – don’t trust them.
586. The communication for this issue has also been very poorly handled. I would like a clear analysis presented in an easily understandable format to be put forward so that neutral parties have a chance for review, discussion and communication, and that avenues for dialogue and changes are open and accessible to all Township citizens. I find it so laughable when residents who have done massive developments on their own properties, with total disregard to the environmental impact, would put up signs to Stop the Build when it comes to the very people who allowed them their own builds. I received no response to my email to all members prior to the special email set up voicing my concerns regarding their management!
587. Not explained properly to the public.
588. Next election, vote all these clowns out for mismanagement and secretly wasting taxpayers’ money that was not part of election platform.
589. Build it when you have 90% of funds in the bank.
590. They need to communicate the entire plan with all proposed amendments and expenses in a format that reaches EVERY taxpayer in Tiny.
591. Council is self-serving and not interested in following the processes we must follow just to get what we as landowners want to do. Landowners out weight elected officially. Hard no on any development. Fire the lot of them.
592. Follow Hazel McCallion’s example. Stop all builds and unnecessary spending until all debt is paid off. All! Then you can think about a new admin building. Only then.
593. Focus on installing more streetlights to keep the community safe. Build out current city hall building only when taxpayers approve it.
594. The Gordion Report on municipal buildings is intentionally being withheld from the public.
595. Listen to the voters!
596. Township of Tiny will be Bankrupt, They have buildings they own and never use.

597. Very disappointed in this administration, not looking after the community, just looking after themselves
598. See previous comments on the core of democracy. Proceeding with this project would be irresponsible and would lead me to believe that there are other factors pushing Council to proceed (such as pressure from a minority of wealthy residents and or contractors benefitting from this project directly)
599. We need an EARLY election NOW! Let the candidates state where they stand!
600. An outside audit is necessary.
601. I am suspicious of Council’s hidden agenda by their urgency to push this building through. They have lost any respect I had for them by their refusal to listen to the taxpayers who elected them.
602. We need some austerity measures to keep costs under control. The assumptions in the plan are wrong. Either the council is not competent OR they are intentionally trying to hide/mislead the public – either way it is embarrassing. Deeply irresponsible to be planning to build a new overpriced admin building while dealing with mishandled asset management that this council may not have been responsible for, but pushing the build and making it worse didn’t make sense. Stop the Build. I would love to upgrade my current residency and have someone else pay for it. This is ludicrous and unethical.
603. I’m very concerned that, as a property owner, I was not given the chance to voice my opinion prior to the initial conversations regarding the necessity of such an undertaking!!
604. Just don’t build it!!! No need for it!! I totally do not trust the Tiny Township local council. Get rid of them!!!!
605. The output of the planning process gives zero confidence in its accuracy or effectiveness.
606. Disappointed with Council and how they are managing. I will be ensuring I vote dramatically differently during the next election.
607. Seems controversial!
608. I believe there are other projects that should take precedent — waste treatment plant.
609. It is not well thought out and will be harmful to the residents of Tiny for a very long time!
610. The lack of response to residents’ concerns is alarming.
611. Fire all of them except Dave Brunelle.
612. STOP THE BUILD.
613. This council is horribly irresponsible regarding OUR finances! It is irresponsible.
614. It does not appear that the elected officials are listening to the concerns of their constituents. Since funding for the new building is available from a government agency the normal discipline associated with large capital expenditures does not seem to be in place. In today’s world this kind of new build and associated cost is out of line with general community needs and not something

that the taxpayers should be burdened paying for, especially considering that Council may well not be acting in the community best long-term interests. Thanks you for the opportunity to correspond on this matter.

615. Seems all functioned quite well during COVID when the existing admin building was not fully utilized. I fail to see the need for such an expenditure. If it’s necessary, then improved operational efficiencies need to fund it, not taxpayers.
616. I am confident that the total cost of the building will exceed the budget by the time it is complete, thus our taxes will have to been increased even more to cover the greater cost.
617. Wish we could have a recall vote to remove them from office!!!
618. We need to stop this spending. To other townships we will look extremely careless to spend $50 million on that building. We need more affordable housing and $50 million will go a long way to solving that problem. The building will become a white elephant and the council members will be the laughingstock right across Canada. We will lose residents and stifle new residents thinking of buying in Tiny. I believe the building should be in downtown Midland that has easy access to all people not only people who have cars. Perhaps a building you could rent space in. I am a resident of Tiny and try never to go to the current building, I can do most of my business online which I am grateful for. I would respect the Township if they find another way. I don’t want a building we can be proud of. I want a whole township that pulls together to help our people live in it. Find another way – show people how we can think outside the box. Most if not all Tiny residents cannot afford a tax increase now for one building out in no man’s land. The current building which I have had to visit maybe once a year now for the 53 years I have lived in Tiny has never been so busy that I had to wait in a line up or I couldn’t find a place to park. It is not on a bus route you cannot walk to it. Please try and find another way.
619. All facts and figures need to be shared.
620. This project needs to be postponed until the people who are pushing for it can be voted out.
621. The present council did not mention any of the new building plans when they were running for election. What about the costs of other pending items they did run on? There will be no monies for such as we will be in a deficit due to the build.
622. I’m concerned as a taxpayer in Tiny that there appears to be very little fiscal responsibility in our Township and more disappointed that the mayor is not addressing public concerns regarding the new building plans and related budget.
623. This financial mess is a snowball effect from previous councils not being fiscally responsible.
624. The council is not listening to the people. Just look at all the signs around Tiny that are saying Stop the Build! I ride my bike and drive around Tiny a lot and there are tons of signs. The people are speaking out.
625. Council seems to completely ignore their responsibilities to the electorate.to justify what they are planning.
626. Lack of transparency of potential actual TOTAL cost and its effect on property taxes providing examples for a few households vs. current property taxes payment level.

627. Please be reasonable Tiny Council! I don’t understand why they are so resistant to public input.

628. The Township does a horrible job communicating and we are shocked about what we read in the survey. We are very disappointed with their utter lack of fiscal responsibility! Hopefully all residents get informed about these issues!!